Sex & CBD With Raven Faber Of Eng Erotics

Speaker 0 00:00 I'm at bomb. Speaker 1 00:01 This is the ministry of hemp podcast brought to you by ministry of health.com America's leading advocate for hemp and hemp education Speaker 2 00:09 <inaudible>. Speaker 1 00:20 I've been talking to a lot of women who are doing very exciting things in him on the show recently and today we're going to talk to another one. Her name is Raven Farber and she is the CEO of a company called enj erotics. Raven doesn't directly work in CBD or hemp, but she does bring CBD into your business. You see Raven works in sex toys and she comes from an engineering background and she is amazing. She's so fun to talk to and you guys are going to hear my conversation with her real soon. Now some of you might be saying, well, what does CBD have to do with sex toys at all? You'll see, trust me, but when I started thinking about the differences between the hemp market, specifically the CBD market and the sex toy market, they have a lot of things in common. Both industries have been battling a lack of education and understanding that can shunt them to darker disreputable places. Speaker 1 01:23 When it comes to CBD, you'll find less than reputable companies making all kinds of medical claims about how it'll cure your allergies and make you see better and cure your cancer. The same thing knows with the erotic sex toy industry for too long, you've had to go to very male humor driven porn shops full of essentially joke memorabilia that doesn't do anyone any good. Raven found a way to not only help people enjoy sex, enjoy themselves and accept themselves for who they are, but introduce CBD into their sex life as well with some pretty cool results. While we don't get into the nitty gritty of things, today's episode is going to be pretty explicit so you have little ones. Again, this might be a good headphones experience, but I'm really excited about talking to Raven and I think you guys will think she's really cool too. Here is my conversation with Raven Farber of Andrew Robbin Speaker 2 02:27 <inaudible> Speaker 0 02:42 Raven, welcome to the ministry of him podcast. Nice to have you aboard. Thank you for having me. This is this really cool. So tell me about, before we go into like the CBD stuff, tell me about Eng erotics. Tell me how about how this came about because it sounds like you were kind of a nerd and you got interested in some stuff. Speaker 4 03:01 No, it's still still am. I'm, I'm currently a nerd. Yeah. NG Roddick's is, uh, yeah, it's a, it's, it's my, my first baby, I guess next to my actual babies and my cat, which is my fur baby. Um, yeah. So I still, I still am very much a nerd. I'm, I'm an engineer by profession and I practiced in the corporate world for, you know, 10 plus years, about 12, 13 years for, well actually I, I founded <inaudible> while I was still working on the tail end of that. Um, but yes, I am a, I'm a structural engineer. Um, went to CU Boulder. I'm here in Colorado. Yeah. And uh, got my bachelor's degree in architectural engineering and my master's degree in civil engineering area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go, and this is the, I'm not dumping what you do. I think we, I think we do is necessary and important. And kick ass. Yeah. Yeah. But how does one go from structural engineering <inaudible> engineering erotica there? Speaker 4 04:07 Yeah, I know, I know. I feel you if you don't like, well, first of all, you know, there are a lot of similarities between structural engineering, um, and sex toys and sex in general because structural engineers, you know, we, we engineer things to stand up straight and not fall down. I mean, erections, you know, we are, we erect things duly that's what the Rojo, yeah. And we're also, I'm also trying to erect things over here. Like, you know, I'm a, yeah. So, but no, I'm, so the story is, is that, um, you know, my career in engineering and my career in sex toys, they were running alongside each other, uh, in parallel, believe it or not. Um, so when I was in grad school, um, you know, I was broke, I was broken. I didn't know that the recession was going to be a thing. Speaker 4 04:50 I was just, you know, trying to get, I was about to go to grad school and, uh, I, I actually started in direct sales, so I was a sex toy sales lady. I did sex toy parties. Yeah. And I started doing that in grad school as a way to make some extra money. I was like, yeah, you know, I'll do this thing. Sure. And, uh, you know, make some money. And what I didn't know is that I was going to like it a lot and I didn't know I was going to be really, really, really good at it. Um, and so I actually continued to do, to be a sex toy consultant on the side while I was, you know, being an engineer during the week, working 40 plus hours a week during the week. And then, you know, on the weekends I go make some extra change, you know, sling and dildos and vibrators. Sure. Um, and that's how I learned about sales and you know, being in not just sales, but being able to sell, you know, something that's so personal and maybe even like taboo and dirty, right. Taboo, big air quotes, taboo and dirty. Yeah. The ministry of hemp does not think it is taboo or dirty, but I figured I understand what you're saying. Yeah. And we will not use those words. Speaker 4 06:03 Yeah. You guys would have to bleep me out every other <inaudible>. Um, but yeah, so, um, yes. So I, you know, learning how to sell a product and put the client at ease, um, when it comes to buying their first vibrator, their first buck plug, you know, for whatever it is. I met all kinds of women. I mean, I'd say like, I did this like for nearly a decade. I mean, from the time that I was, Oh gosh, I was just barely 22, um, up until, um, gosh, my late twenties. Um, and for reference I'll be 34 in March. So, I mean, I was a, a, an engineer in the corporate world and a sex toy sales lady for, you know, for like about the same, a length of time. And, uh, and during that time, you know, I really liked selling. I really liked, you know, I liked it and I was finding that the, the direct sales route was not really what it was cracked up to be for me. Speaker 4 06:59 And I wasn't really getting everything that I needed out of it. And I started to notice that in a variety of the things that were being offered. Cause you know, you, you know, like it's direct sales. Like, you know, it's, I'm not, you know, would never bash anybody if you know for sure that's what they want to do. But you get your kit and you have your catalog. Like, you know, you, you know, most consultants, you don't really get to choose what you're offering. You surely are not, you just surely don't have any dis any say in the design process. Um, nerd and you started to go yes, yes, exactly, exactly. And I, yeah, exactly. I started to notice, um, design flaws, you know, things that could be very easily fixed. They were just designed a little bit differently and I started noticing some real gaps in the market. Speaker 4 07:46 I noticed that a lot of what we were offering and how we were marketing it, um, very heteronormative, um, you know, very, very heteronormative. And I know for the longest time, um, you know, I'm not going to mention any company names obviously, but, um, but I know for the longest time that, you know, the, the idea was like, you know, to have a fun ladies only party. Right. And, you know, you can imagine how that's going to get muddy because you meet somebody who identifies as a woman and maybe they, you know, they have not gone through their transition. I mean, it's painful and expensive from what I understand. And it's like, you know, listen, I'm not going to like, you know, do all checks at the door and reach my hand under somebody's skirt. Like, I know it just like, it made me really uncomfortable. So, you know, that that whole premise and then also, you know, the things that we were offering, you know, they weren't necessarily inclusive, um, to other sexual identities, other gender identities. Um, and it was a very, yeah. And, and that's, you know, really it's been, we've gotten better over, over, over the years. But you know, historically, you know, the sex toy industry has been very status quo. Um, Speaker 0 08:59 blows my mind because it just seems like if there's one industry that should fundamentally understand this, you know what I mean? And be like, look, we're not taking anybody's crap and we're not judging anybody. If you want a toy, we got it for you. It seems like it'd be the sex toy industry, right? Speaker 4 09:16 You would think that you would think that. And, and you know, granted, things have gotten so, so much better over the past, you know, eight or 10 years, but there was a period of time where it just wasn't it, it wasn't that, it really was not that. I mean, you know, think back to this was like, well before I knew anything about toys, cause I was little, I was a child, but you know, late eighties, early nineties, like, you know, you'd go get sex toys from, you know, the CD shop on the bad side of town and you had like, you know, a very basic veiny throbby looking <inaudible>. Speaker 0 09:47 Yeah. And there were, there were garbage. It was just carved. It was stuff that you bought for parties and jokes and whatnot. Speaker 4 09:53 They weren't being marketed. Um, like they are now. They certainly weren't being marketed to women. They weren't being marketed to queer couples, trans couples, they, you know, they just, it just, it wasn't there. And, and so, you know, you think that, um, you know, we still have a long way to go, you know, granted. Um, and I'm finding that there are other companies that are, you know, trying to rehabilitate their image, um, for lack of a better term. Um, but there are a lot of really great companies in sex tech right now that are really doing like, leading the charge. Speaker 0 10:24 And like a lot of women fronted companies. I've noticed too, it seems like a lot of women got into the industry and said, you know what the problem is there's too many dudes that are running this and you guys all think it should be geared a certain way, you know, Speaker 4 10:37 I mean, and, and you know, we're seeing like, you know, it's 2019 and it's like, we're still trying like women, you know, we're still trying to get our seat at the table and you know, it's like, there was, you know, this whole to do last year at CES and Laura de Carlo and they, Speaker 0 10:53 I don't, okay. CES, I don't know what that is. Speaker 4 10:55 The consumer electronic showcase, you know, the, yeah, yeah. You know, it's in Vegas, it's where you go to see all the latest tech gadgets, robotics, drones, the sat and the other, and uh, yeah, it's going on right now. It's going on this week. Yeah. Yeah. I know somebody who's there with her, her invention. And it's quite amazing. Um, you know, and, and so we're still fighting for a seat at the table. Like, you know, they have been having, you know, like VR porn and sex robots and stuff like that at CES. But as soon as, um, you know, you have like a woman owned company with a vibrator that's for women's pleasure. And that's what it is. No, no, no. So this year is a bit different. There's a <inaudible> big handful of sex tech companies that are at CES this year. Um, and I'm so pleased because, you know, that's, Speaker 0 11:45 I'm just, I'm so pleased. I mean, I'm just more open than we can be about this. The more normalizing we can be better than the better we will all feel. Well, yeah. And you know, and the thing Speaker 4 11:54 is, is that it's a big market. It is a huge market. There's so much designing to be done, so much money to be made. And when the tide rises, all of the boats are going to rise, all of them, every single last damn one. So, yeah. So when I started noticing, you know, these gaps in the market, you know, um, this need for, you know, better design, better materials. I, I can't even remember. Like, if I knew I didn't, I don't even think I'd heard the term sex tech. I just knew that, okay. I am an engineer. I take in circuits. Um, I like building stuff, you know, like, and, and for anything that I, I don't know how to do, like, you know, when you go to school and you're an engineer, well you have a bunch of other friends that are also engineers too. Speaker 0 12:37 You call the right nerve, they tell you where it needs to be tightened or whatever. Obviously I'm an engineer. I know what I'm talking about. Honestly. You know, the engineers always, right. All you gotta do is just like dig real down, Speaker 4 12:48 down real deep, but just be like, I feel like an engineer today, you know, just real, real deep, you know, find your inner engineer's. Yeah. Speaker 0 12:54 So you knew it existed. You just didn't know it was sex tech. It just wasn't, it was thing I just wanted to, can I cuss? I want it to show as already explicit. So I just want to, I just wanted to build some shit and, um, and, and I didn't, Speaker 4 13:12 I didn't even know what the company was going to look like. I didn't know, like, I didn't know. I just knew that it was on my radar. And I started thinking about it probably two years before I, I actually found it. Erotics and so I'm still in the corporate world. And a friend of mine, uh, introduced me to a, a, they're no longer in business, but a startup called, uh, orgasm. Metronics and I had the pleasure of meeting, uh, their founder, their CEO and their team. And it just blew my mind. And I, and I, and I told each, I've told each and every one of them that that was really like the catalyst. That was the inspiration. That was really when I knew without a shadow of a doubt that yes, there was a place for engineering and science in the realm of sex toys because of that company. Speaker 4 14:01 Um, you know, although it was not founded by a woman, it was founded by, um, a physicist with a PhD. And I'm like, Holy shit. There you go, it's going on. And he's like doing videos about eccentricity and frequency and you know, rotational vibration. And he had his whiteboard and he's putting this on YouTube and writing equations and shit. And I'm like, yes, yes, yes. This is what, where was this course in, um, in college where was this? And, yeah, and so, um, and unfortunately the company went under and I was really sad to see that happen because you know, what they were bringing to the table, um, was really cool. The concept, I mean, just, you know, orgasm Metronics I was like, yes. So, yeah, I yes, yes, absolutely. And so, um, I, you know, I, I speak very highly of them because, you know, they were really my inspiration and affirmation that yeah, there's, this is a thing. Yes, absolutely. And so, and then I can, Speaker 0 15:05 let me ask you, so let me ask you from there. You did. I have to, obviously it's the show about hemps we need to bring it back to him. But from there you start building your own superior, well engineered sex toys driven for women, for trans couples, for just about anybody who needs one. How do we get to CBD? Speaker 4 15:24 Oh gosh. Well, you know, after we like, yeah, I mean we could be, yeah, I know. I'm like, yeah, this is a hemp show and we give, you know, you know, we might have to do addition to this because it's a wild ride. Um, and there's like a whole like thing about the sex toys and what we do because like, you know, there's a difference between being the inventor and being the engineer and that's a whole different thing. But we get CBD. All right. Yeah. CBD. So CBD, um, CPD came to find me. Mmm. Quite literally. I didn't even know we were going to be working with CBD. I had no clue. I had no idea at all. Um, so we have a private group on Facebook, you know, the NG erotics community. And it's basically like, you know, like we have conversations like you and I are having like a do Facebook live and you know, it's, it's where I gather feedback cause I want to give the people what they want. Speaker 4 16:19 You know, it's a safe space where we can talk about sex and all that stuff. So one day, um, somebody posts in the group, Hey, you know, Raven, what do you think about, um, about CBD infused lubricant and THC infused lubricant? And, you know, be completely honest with you, I had been out of the loop because I've been in the corporate world for a long time and the firm that I was at, um, right before I made the leap to become an entrepreneur, you know, like I think I can call myself that these days. Uh, sometimes I'm like, what the hell am I doing with my life? Um, so I, I honestly had no clue because I had been with my previous firm and the firm before that, um, you know, they did randoms and there was a zero tolerance thing and so I didn't touch anything. Speaker 4 17:09 Yeah. I, so, yeah, I didn't use any topicals. I didn't vape, I didn't smoke anything. I've always, I mean I went to, I went to school in Boulder, so I mean, yeah, I, yeah, I'm, I'm very for it. Where's the report? 20 friendly, you know. Yeah, absolutely. And I just, you know, I just couldn't because I didn't want to risk losing my job. And so, um, you know, I, I said I, I, you know, I have no clue. I have no clue. Let me, let me ask, cause there were other people that I knew, I'm in the space and you know, one of the first people that I asked, um, was I, one of the founders at steep fuse coffee in Boulder, Colorado and uh, yeah, Devin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Him and I went to high school together and I reached, yeah, I reached out to him and I was like, Hey, I got this question. Speaker 4 17:50 Don't know. You know, I'm like reaching out to people. Like I need people who are like, you know, current four, 20 hemp CBD, THC people. Tell me what's going on. Cause I don't know how to answer this question. And so, um, long story short, the idea was pitched to me that, you know, perhaps maybe NGO erotics should dive into this realm and create CBD infused intimate body care products. Um, <inaudible> and I thought about it and I realized there was certainly a need for that. I mean, you know, on the chemical engineering side, on the formulation side, because you know, sex toys and CBD, you know, they don't seem like they're related, but they actually have a lot of things in common. I mean, neither one of them are regulated. That's for quality and safety. When I first heard your name and what you were doing, I said to myself, Oh my God, this makes perfect sense. And like, how did no one think of this yet? Speaker 4 18:49 Well, that's the thing, I'm sure that many people have. But you know, it's like a lot of people have an idea just about everybody has an idea. And I have no idea. I have no doubt that, you know, there were probably half a dozen other people that maybe thought about launching a company like this, but it's, you know, it's in the execution. I mean, too often like, you know, I have an idea and one day I'm going to do this idea and it takes a lot of course say actually, yeah, the execution is, yeah. So, um, so yeah, you know, I was very intrigued, very intrigued and I'm like, I, I think that there is definitely a need for this and you know, we're going to see regulation for quality and safety. I'm on the CBD side long before we do on the sex toy side, unfortunately. Speaker 4 19:36 And that's because, yeah, because of, you know, societal stigma and whatnot, but, you know, um, there's even something, you know, stigmatized and taboo about CBD. Like I, I hear it everyday like, Oh, I wanna I want to give my mom in law. You know, one of yourself sticks for her, you know, whatever, you know, she's got pain, whatever the case may be. But you know, she's never touched anything cannabis related. I don't know how to go about it. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, and it's <inaudible> you know, once we started diving into it, I was really blown away by what the demand was. I was really shocked by how many people didn't realize you could use CBD, um, to enhance the sexual experience. And I was even more shocked to learn that people did not know that there's no, there's no regulation here. There've been plenty of people that have been injured by, you know, subpar sex toys with toxic materials add wider, but you never hear about those things, you know? Speaker 4 20:36 But if you, you know, find somebody who's an ER nurse or an EMT. Yep. Those stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, sex sent me to the ER. I forgot what it comes on, but there's a reason why it happens. So can I ask how CBD enhances <inaudible>? Can you explain that? Like, w how does it work? Maybe just walk me through when your products, how was sure and what it's used for? Well, you know, uh, you know, CBD has been, I mean, as I'm sure you tell me, tell me if I'm telling you something, you know, you know, you're at the ministry, a hemp, all right? Like you, you know, all of this, you know, we're here to learn. Speaker 4 21:13 So, you know, so, you know, we know that it can act as a vasal dilator, you know, and get, you know, more and more blood flow going. And when there's more blood flowing into an erogenous area, you know, the sensitivity is apt to increase. Um, so yeah, yeah, yes. You know, so, you know, when you apply, you know, a CBD topical to the clitoris or you use it internally on the G spot or you use it on the penis, um, you know, it, it has the potential to create more sensitivity for an enhanced experience. And of course, you know, you know, your mileage may vary. Like everybody is different. So, you know, depending upon, you know, things like, you know, age, you know, do you use tobacco? You know, what's your medical history, you know, what kind of medications are you on? Like, have you been using alcohol tonight? Speaker 4 22:02 Like these are all things that, you know, I know like when I've been drinking, you know, my reaction to CBD is a little bit different because like I feel a little bit, you know, CBD and cocktails and stuff and it is a different sensation. It's different. It is, it is. It's very, it's very different. It's, you know, so I always tell people like, you know, part of the fun, you know, is really experimenting to see how it works for you. And, you know, I always tell people, you know, I find that, you know, for a number of people it helps to prolong the experience. Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, it's like, you know, while, you know, increasing, increasing your, your sensitivity, getting you out of your own head. Um, you know, especially if you've been, you know, if you've been vaping, I'm not limiting it to, we don't do vape, but, you know, you know, just, you know, say you, you know, decided to vape CBD. Speaker 4 22:50 Um, you know, it helps you to get out of that, you know, anxious level. Like, yeah, you know, I'm, I, I'm a mom. Like my, my head is like all over the place and sometimes it's like, you know, for us women especially, you know, when we're worried about the kids, we're worried about doing the, you know, we got to do the school project and all of that stuff. Like how the hell do you get in the mood for sex? Like how do you, like when your, your mind is just like scattered or maybe, you know, for us women who are postpartum, um, you know, it's like we don't look like we did when we were 21. I sure don't, you know, and, and it's like, you know, gosh, I feel so self conscious and you know, after having used CBD, it's really a good way of getting out of your own head and getting into a more relaxed Headspace. Right. So you can have an orgasm, you know, and that's like just the mental benefits, you know, outside of anything that's happening, you know, in your vagina, on your vagina, you know, on your robot, Speaker 0 23:46 you're not thinking about it. You're just enjoying. Speaker 4 23:48 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But I've had clients of mine, you know, write into me and tell me about how it's helped them to increase lubrication, how it's helped them, you know, you know, they have more sensitivity, they're able to have more orgasms. Um, it's helped, you know, prolong their partner. I mean, it's been all across the board and since people are so different, you know, it's like I can never tell people like, it's going to do this, this, this for you. All I know is it's going to be good Speaker 0 24:16 product. That's the same people. Anyone who making the hardcore claims it does this, it does. That is probably a liar, but we know it helps things. It, we know it helps. Like you said, take you out of that head space, it helps mellow you out. And it would make sense that yes, if you introduce it into an erogenous zone, chances are it's going to absorb the same way and have similar properties. Speaker 4 24:40 Yeah, absolutely. And, and you know, we would, you know, I'm, I am not a doctor. I am an engineer. Like none of us are doctors. I mean, we're all engineers and scientists, you know. Um, so, and we're our, our formulations specialist, she's very good at telling us, you know, this is what you can and cannot say. It's why we do our labels the way that we do and this, that, and the other. We, you know, but I can tell you that, you know, a number of our clients have written into me and said, Hey, I have this condition, you know, in my intimate area and it's made it easier for me to have sex, you know? And so, yeah, I wonder if we're in this area where there's new hope for women who have things like, you know, vaginismus, vulvodynia, <inaudible> endometriosis. Like, I wonder if we're like, you know, in this space where, you know, like there are a lot of women that have, you know, they, they want to have sex, but it's very painful, very difficult, even impossible for them to have sex. Speaker 4 25:40 Like imagine what, you know, maybe this could help them. So, you know, so I tell people like, listen, go to town, like it's going to do what it's gonna do. Like, I, I can't guarantee that it's gonna, you know, do something specific. You know, your results will vary. They will vary. Um, but I can say that you're going to have a really good time. You know, it's like, it's, it's been a very rare occurrence that, you know, somebody told me like, you know, your product didn't do anything for my sex life. Like, you know, I just, I'm just so thrilled that you know, that our products are helping people and people are loving what we're doing. So, um, so yeah. So, you know, it came to me CBD like, you know, came to find us like, Speaker 0 26:24 so what do you guys offer right now CBD wise at an E and, G? Is it anger around it's or Eng? Erotics NG erotics erotic. Like I kept looking at it, I'm like, how am I going to <inaudible> Speaker 4 26:36 yeah, it's all right. We offer a few different things and a variety of different versions right now. Um, we started our product line with our suiting South stick. Um, we call it the original. We retroactively named it the original formula and it is formulated with coconut oil, um, and cocoa butter. Uh, it contains 500 milligrams of CBD. And when we launched that, uh, we had a bunch of people that were like, well, Hey, I want to try it too, but I'm allergic or sensitive to coconut oil. What can you do for us? So now we also have, um, a coconut free version of the soothing South stick and it's formulated with mango butter, uh, in lieu of the coconut oil and deep deodorized cocoa butter. So it's virtually, I mean, they're both, neither one of them are scented. Um, but you know, the, um, coconut free version, um, you know, it doesn't smell like, it doesn't really sound like anything. So we started with a 500 milligram, um, soothing South sticks and then we created our extra strength, 1000 milligrams soft sticks again, you know, um, original formula and coconut free. And then after that came the, uh, the soaking sand bath shots, which if I'm being honest, like I didn't even want it do like, I was like, what do you guys mean? You want us to make like you want us to do what? Speaker 4 27:59 Well, no, no, no, no. We, we, so we don't do bath bombs. Like my formulation specialists tonight, we had a really long conversation about bath bombs and why we don't do them. Um, and it, it, it basically boils down to efficacy. Um, you know, and you know, with CBD being oil soluble and you hear somebody say something that makes sense. Yeah, I threw that. I S I said efficacy. Damn it. Like how many people, you know, it's like, it's not a buzz word. It's something that you know, we really care about. So, um, so our soaking sand bath shots, um, they come and four-ounce vials and they look like, you know, they kind of look like kinetic sand if you ever played with that kid or I play with it now. I mean I got kids. So whatever you want. Yeah. And um, and so you dump the whole thing into a, into your bath tub and it is a, they are 20 milligrams of CBD each. Speaker 4 28:48 They come in a variety of different scents that we, uh, we blend a custom blend in house, um, dumped the whole vial into your bath water and you soak in, it feels like your body has had a glass of wine, but your inhibitions are not affected at all. So it's like your whole body is just like <inaudible> Oh, I mean, like the bath shots, we'll get you right. And the cool thing about those is that they're formulated in such a way where the CBD is evenly dispersed throughout the water. So you know, you know, if you've got like a big fancy, you know, tub that you can soak right on up to your neck, like that's a very good thing. So, um, <inaudible> sits on the top of the water. When you get in, it just coats you. Is it like that? No, it's, it's doesn't even sit on top of the water. Speaker 4 29:33 It's evenly dispersed. Just hangs out. Suspend, yeah, on the top, like from the top down to the bottom. Um, and we found that, you know, our, our testing showed that, um, the efficacy was much better. So, you know, we don't plan on doing, you know, bath shots and, and you know, to be on it or excuse me, bath bombs. We don't plan on doing bath bombs. Um, and I, you know, I like our people, like our followers, they were like, we want something for the bath. I was like, what does that have to do with getting it in at night? And they were like, well, you got to relax. And I was like, Oh, let me see. I'm okay. I'm a mom. I haven't had time for that shit. And you know, since we release those, I have become an occasional bath taker. I still don't have time, but <inaudible> I take time out to use my own bath shot. Speaker 4 30:16 So we have those. And then we have 'em our a O nectar massage oil. Um, we don't have a CBD infused lubricant because personal lubricants are classified as a class two medical device by the FDA. I mean, yeah, I guess. Yeah. And you know, and listen, we're, we're still on the come up. Like I don't have like a whole pile of money to fight the FDA so we don't want to piss them off. Right. Um, so, but we're marketing a, it's a massage oil and it is safe for intimacy and it's very good for erotic massage. It's good for, for play. It's good for intercourse, it's good for back door play, like it's good with toys. Um, and it works. It's not safe with latex though, cause it's, it's, you know, oil based of course. But those come in a variety of different sense. Um, as well. Speaker 4 31:10 We also have an unscented version in both the bath shots and the O nectar. And then last year we released a a, we call it body Polish and it's just, it's a CBD infused sugar scrub, very gentle. It's good for your intimate areas, but you know, to have a CBD infused bath with, you know, a partner or a group of people, we don't judge. I mean we're not here to, you know, and you get that real sensual, you know, scrubbed down and you want to get that, you know, you want to get the vibe right. You can't just jump right into it. I mean, you can't just like, boom, there it is. Like, you know, draw that map, you know, soak in the CBD, get your little scrub on, you know, like that sort of thing. Some romance. Yeah, come on. Speaker 4 31:51 And it's like, gosh, I'm like, I feel like such a hypocrite because it's like I'm, you know, with two kids it's like, where the hell I'm lucky if I get a quick few minutes, let's get it. You know, it's like, it's like, you know, it's like the kids are asleep. Do I want to watch TV? Do I want to go to sleep? Do I want to have sex, like pick one, you know, maybe two, but you can't have all three, otherwise you can't, you're, you're exhausted, you know, more, more so than you already are. So, um, yeah, so that is what we currently offer. Um, you know, going into 20, 20, you know, we're going to be doing some R and D with water soluble CBD. You know, we're, yeah. You know, we're, we're, but we're, we're focusing mostly on, um, toy R and D. um, for 2020. Speaker 4 32:34 We have a pressure sensitive dildo that we're working on. I'm very young, very excited. Very cool. Yeah, it's cool. We're, you know, we're, we're essentially, you know, picking up where orgasm Metronics left off, um, with the team's blessing. Of course. Um, I talked to each one of them and I'm still in contact with them. And, uh, I said, you know, I would really, it'd be privileged, I would be privileged and honored to, um, to work on this and to bring it back and get it to where it needs to be. So, um, yeah, so we'll be focusing, you know, mainly on mechanical device, um, R and D and 20, 20. Um, and you know, maybe, you know, maybe releasing a couple of new things on the CBD side, but you know, but then, you know, probably not, we're not in any rush. Our current product lineup is really a solid, um, you know, people seem to love it. I love it. Speaker 0 33:22 I'm excited to try it. I think I've got a box coming and I'm super excited. Speaker 4 33:26 Yeah, no you haven't. You have a box coming. I've got to send that email and Speaker 0 33:29 there's something to be said about, and I was looking at your site. It's a great site and it's very inclusive and it's very body positive. And there's <inaudible> said about going to a place like that where you know, someone not only thought about this, but they put work into it and not just their own products, but the products they've selected. And I think you're doing an amazing job. Speaker 4 33:48 Thank you. I have to, I have to say, I would be remiss if I didn't, you know, shout out the designer who did my website, but um, her name is Laura Russo and she runs EA graphic design and she just, she is the reason why we have the look and feel that we do. Um, you know, because initially I was pumping all my money into R and D, right. And we didn't really have money to focus on aesthetics, so she did our website overhaul. She did our rebranding, um, and she really helped us level up. Speaker 0 34:18 She did a great job. It feels like a safe place to go to buy stuff like this. Speaker 4 34:23 I think she nailed it and I want for people to on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Careful. So it's really, it's really important. You know, a lot of that's, I think like you nailed it. A lot of people don't feel safe. Yeah. With this sort of like what if, if somebody finds out, what if I go to a sex toy store and I see somebody that I know right Speaker 0 34:43 when my boss was there, like what if somebody sees me outside or, Speaker 4 34:46 yeah. Yeah. And, and it's, and it's really like at the heart of what we do, you know, aside from safety and quality and science and engineering, all that jazz. It's like it's making people feel safe and cared for and you know, and we really want to be a place like we want to set the tone that, you know, you can have a big air quotes cause it's a podcast, prestigious, respectable engineering firm that's working on sex toys. There's no reason why this can't be respectable person. Speaker 0 35:16 Absolutely. And like, like we said earlier, the more open we are about it and the more comfortable we make people with it, the better we will all feel about it. And I think it goes conversation. I think it goes beyond the fact that you guys are being respectful or you are being reputable. I think it's the fact that you listen. I think it's the fact that you listen and we try to what people want and you know, and that's why how you said CBD found you. I think it is amazing. And that's why I brought you on this show because you're the only person I've heard of doing this and I think it's incredible. Speaker 4 35:48 You know, being a minority, being a black woman, there aren't really a lot of founders in either the sex tech space or CBD that looked like me. Absolutely. Speaker 0 35:59 Just women period, let alone black women. It's crazy. It's changing. We've seen a lot of that changing. And like I've been interviewing a lot of women that are coming into this industry, the hemp industry that is not so much the sex toy industry, but they're coming in and saying, well yeah, there's a good way to, a right way to do this and I'm going to step in and do it. And whether it's warming or you know, or creating a a tincture or I just spoke to a woman that is making like hemp nutrition bars that are amazing and to see, I saw a niche and I went for it. And that's it sounds like that's exactly you've done Raven. I can't thank you enough for coming on the show. This has been fantastic. Thank you so much. I've never been on a podcast before. As you obviously heard, I had a blast talking to Raven. She is the coolest. She is a mom. She is a scientist. She is a nerd. She's in the CBD and she makes sex toys which puts her right up there in my top five most interesting people that I've probably ever spoken to and of course you will be able to find links to <inaudible> and all of their products in the show notes for this episode. Speaker 1 37:17 Next time on the show, bring your appetite because we are going to be talking hemp in food again and I might even do a little bit of cooking. As always, I want to thank everyone that has been supporting the ministry of hemp podcast. You guys have been great and you can hit me with all your opinions, your thoughts and your questions. You can email [email protected] or you can call the ministry of hemp phone line at (402) 819-6417 and leave a message and you might just hear your question answered on the show by myself and kit O'Connell, editor in chief of ministry of <inaudible> dot com speaking of ministry of hemp.com make sure to get over there and check out kits picks for the best CBD selves, creams and topicals of 2019 and while you're there, be sure to subscribe to ministry of health newsletter so you can be the first to hear about all the exciting news reviews and educational stuff that we are [email protected] if that's not enough for you to follow us on Twitter at ministry of hemp or on Facebook backslash ministry of him, as always, you can find a full written transcript of this episode in the show notes as well because at the ministry of hemp, we believe that an accessible world is a better world for everybody, but right now is your host Matt bomb saying, be sure to take care of yourself, take care of others, and make good decisions. 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